user1205
06-10 01:38 PM
The state chapters don't seem to be very effective.
I thought I was a member of the CA chapter but in the last few months I received no information from anybody in this chapter.
I was semi-active, meaning I helped with phone calls, money and prints and that's as much as I could do at this point in time.
And at some point there was a discussion about a new user group of only the people that are active and can contribute and it seems they went through with it.
I understand that some things might be better discussed in a smaller group with the people that can dedicate more time, but there are different levels of commitment and if you're not open and accept that some want to help but can't do as much as others, you're cutting yourself short.
When there is a big initiative or a push for funds and effort, you're not even reaching out to the bigger group; you're relying on the same small number of people and they too have limited resources and energy and will get tired.
Maybe I�m just having a bad day but that was my experience and CA is one of the most active chapters so maybe all is well I�m an isolated case.
That is true and IV core member Nixtor had given details about this visa movement more than a month ago in the all state chapter conference call. This call was strictly for state chapter members of all states. IV core has been meeting DOS and USCIS regularly to find solution to the problems our members have been facing.
Pls take part in the call campaign and contribute funds to be able to find relief.
I thought I was a member of the CA chapter but in the last few months I received no information from anybody in this chapter.
I was semi-active, meaning I helped with phone calls, money and prints and that's as much as I could do at this point in time.
And at some point there was a discussion about a new user group of only the people that are active and can contribute and it seems they went through with it.
I understand that some things might be better discussed in a smaller group with the people that can dedicate more time, but there are different levels of commitment and if you're not open and accept that some want to help but can't do as much as others, you're cutting yourself short.
When there is a big initiative or a push for funds and effort, you're not even reaching out to the bigger group; you're relying on the same small number of people and they too have limited resources and energy and will get tired.
Maybe I�m just having a bad day but that was my experience and CA is one of the most active chapters so maybe all is well I�m an isolated case.
That is true and IV core member Nixtor had given details about this visa movement more than a month ago in the all state chapter conference call. This call was strictly for state chapter members of all states. IV core has been meeting DOS and USCIS regularly to find solution to the problems our members have been facing.
Pls take part in the call campaign and contribute funds to be able to find relief.
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shantanup
06-11 01:05 PM
multiple year eads & ap - may or may not happen
visa recapture - no chance
visa increase - will not happen
still contribute??
Do you usually get paid first and then work? Do you get the returns first then you invest? Do you get the overpaid tax back first and then you file the tax return?
How do you know in advance that visa recapture and visa increase will not happen?
visa recapture - no chance
visa increase - will not happen
still contribute??
Do you usually get paid first and then work? Do you get the returns first then you invest? Do you get the overpaid tax back first and then you file the tax return?
How do you know in advance that visa recapture and visa increase will not happen?
factoryman
06-21 01:22 PM
go through all the posts at linked at my post 'Link to post at IV''But what is these guys doing?' (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=86268&postcount=5)
The linked place is a safe and cozy haven for most Democratic Senators and Democratic Congressmen. All start threads in their real names over there.
This is like red meat for them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFajGU
The linked place is a safe and cozy haven for most Democratic Senators and Democratic Congressmen. All start threads in their real names over there.
This is like red meat for them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFajGU
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eb3_nepa
07-15 03:22 PM
don't I need to provide the account number of IV there.?
Nope. You are simply mailing out a "cheque" to IV at the postal address.
Nope. You are simply mailing out a "cheque" to IV at the postal address.
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ramus
07-06 02:47 PM
We should learn something from USCIS.. If they have worked hard for 48 hours on last weekend, we should work more this weekend and do whatever we can to help core members.
__________________________________________________ ______________
More important is the last 48 hrs where they processed 25000 cases
AT-WILL.
Ohh this guy has a good first name - 485 granted.
Ohh this guy married twice,needs money - 485 granted.
Ooh this girl doesnt look good - 485 denied.
Ooh this girl has excellent looks - 485 granted.
Ooh This couple stayed EUROPE not so loyal - 485 denied.
and so on and so forth....
__________________________________________________ ______________
More important is the last 48 hrs where they processed 25000 cases
AT-WILL.
Ohh this guy has a good first name - 485 granted.
Ohh this guy married twice,needs money - 485 granted.
Ooh this girl doesnt look good - 485 denied.
Ooh this girl has excellent looks - 485 granted.
Ooh This couple stayed EUROPE not so loyal - 485 denied.
and so on and so forth....
felix31
01-04 02:48 PM
well,
I guess I am pretty much in line with others.
For me, having GC will mean becoming a citizen one day and my visa hasseles will lessen tremendously even with only GC in hand. Right now,its next to impossible to get a 2-3week visitor visa for EU countries and actually the rest of the world..
Naturally, even being able to file for I485 would help my wife jump start her career, we would be able to commit to buying a house and I would be able to focus on some enterpenuer ideas. Our families would be able to come and spend extended 2-3months. Right now, they can only get 2 weeks and % of denials is frightetingly high....
Going back home is not an option as unemloyment rate is higher than ever, and I would not be able to support my family if I go back.
I will be 42 in may and already 7+ yrs in the US with PD Nov 2005...and I am slowly getting old for IT businees but GC process keeps me chained for employer, of course.
Hopefully, in a year or two things will be sort themselves out - if not we will be moving to Canada.
I guess I am pretty much in line with others.
For me, having GC will mean becoming a citizen one day and my visa hasseles will lessen tremendously even with only GC in hand. Right now,its next to impossible to get a 2-3week visitor visa for EU countries and actually the rest of the world..
Naturally, even being able to file for I485 would help my wife jump start her career, we would be able to commit to buying a house and I would be able to focus on some enterpenuer ideas. Our families would be able to come and spend extended 2-3months. Right now, they can only get 2 weeks and % of denials is frightetingly high....
Going back home is not an option as unemloyment rate is higher than ever, and I would not be able to support my family if I go back.
I will be 42 in may and already 7+ yrs in the US with PD Nov 2005...and I am slowly getting old for IT businees but GC process keeps me chained for employer, of course.
Hopefully, in a year or two things will be sort themselves out - if not we will be moving to Canada.
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Libra
09-11 11:52 AM
thanks pankajkakkar and iam_1900 for your contributions.
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saimrathi
07-06 11:18 AM
People are burying these posts as spam.. can we do something to make sure that doesnt happen?
http://digg.com/politics/Reversal_Frustrates_Green_Card_Applicants
http://digg.com/politics/U_S_Withdraws_Offer_of_60_000_Job_Based_Visas_Ange ring_Immigration_Lawyer
http://digg.com/politics/No_July_4th_Celebrations_for_Highly_Skilled_Future _Americans
http://digg.com/politics/Rep_Lofgren_Issues_Statement_on_Updated_Visa_Bulle tin
http://digg.com/politics/USCIS_Visa_scandal
http://digg.com/politics/Reversal_Frustrates_Green_Card_Applicants
http://digg.com/politics/U_S_Withdraws_Offer_of_60_000_Job_Based_Visas_Ange ring_Immigration_Lawyer
http://digg.com/politics/No_July_4th_Celebrations_for_Highly_Skilled_Future _Americans
http://digg.com/politics/Rep_Lofgren_Issues_Statement_on_Updated_Visa_Bulle tin
http://digg.com/politics/USCIS_Visa_scandal
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sri1309
03-13 01:28 PM
While we work in different directions for the same goal, please write to Zoe and others that we can help reduce the housing crisis, create jobs.
Please find addresses at the bottom who to send.
Sub: Legal immigrants Quota Problem: Employment based EB2, EB3
Dear XXXX,
This is to once again thank you for your continuous efforts in making things move in the legal immigration front.
We would request you to bring HR 5882 to the table and hence help people waiting for so long get immediate relief. We think this is the best time to do it as there are so many waiting in long queues for so long and are unable to buy houses though they are at rock bottom prices now, or change companies as some of us would also like to, and start new companies and jobs. There are very much needed in this time of economic crisis. Applicants in EB3 and EB2 Employment based greencard category are severly backlogged.
The problem is mainly due to country based quotas and wastage of many greencards due to administrative delays over the years, as you know. This can easily be fixed with a simple administrative action and need not need to be done as part of the bigger comprehensive immigration bill. We too need a change.
Below are some statistics and details of the problem, just in case you missed a point.
1. High technology H1-B visas allowed into US = 85,000 H1B per year.
2. H1B quota limit per country = None, quota limits.
3. Greencard eligible candidates = All H1B holders
4. Total Employment Greencards = 145,000 per year.
5. Quota limits for greencards = 7% per country and each family member is counted as 1 visa.
6. H1 holders from India = 30,000 to 40,000 per year.
7. Greencards available for India by quota limits = 2000 � 3000 per year.
8. People waiting in Queues = 37,000 � 38,000 per year.
9. Estimated wait = 10- 15 years per life.
10. Estimated loss of productivity = unlimited.
11. Loss of health and health related issues due to these worries = incalculable.
Consequences:
1. EB3 Employment based category from India is severely backlogged,
2. Number of applicants in Queues waiting to buy house = 300,000
3. Number of applicants in Queues buying a house now = 0.
4. Money spent by applicants on rent per year = $6 billion
5. Number of applicants having Citizen children born in US = 80%
6. Number of applicants unable to start own companies(as they are tied to employer all the time due to greencard sponsorship)
= 30-40%
7. Applicants disappointed and leaving US = 10-15%
8. Applicants planning to come back after retirement who take with them US Citizens who will sponsor them = everybody who is leaving US right now with Citizen kids
9. Burden on social security and healthcare by applicants in point 7 = billions of dollars.
10. Severe pain for everyone wasting time on worries and uncertainity.
11. Many people thinking of returning back, very disappointed.
Solution
Please provide immediate relief. We are still holding our bags in hands even after 5-10 years of playing it by law after applying for greencards. Please respect liberty and freedom and let that happen to legal applicants.
1. Please remove country quotas for greencards immediately to make waiting less for legal employer based EB2/EB3 applicants from India in long queues ALREADY in US for years.
2. This needs No new jobs or Visas. It�s just a simple fix to help bring joy to some legal immigrants and give them freedom to contribute more.
3. Please provide greencards for any legal employment based applicant who lived in US for atleast 5 years and is waiting for more than 5 years and paid taxes and live like a good American Citizen.
4. Please provide Citizenship for anyone who lived in US for 10 years and played by the rules all the time and paid taxes.
5. This will help people buy houses that are so cheap now which will pump in $40 billion even if 50% people buy houses.
6. Construction jobs increase as people start buying houses.
7. Manufacturing and auto industry improves as people start buying cars again due to renewed confidence. Else they continue to adjust with their old cars for now.
8. A fee of $1000-$3000 can be applied for premium processing which can generate $1.5 billion instantly.
9. Stop the distribution of 50000 diversity greencards lottery per year immediately. This is bad in the current times, when people are waiting in legal queues for ever.
10. Issue greencards immediately to anyone who did PhD in US and to Masters Students.. They will be more productive if you help here.
11. Please don�t wait for CIR to have these. This is a small admin fix, no new visas or jobs.
Please let us feel respected for playing by the rules. It will come back to the American people in full gratitude in the form of jobs and renewed vigor.
WE TOO NEED A CHANGE NOW.
A positive action in this regard will be very highly appreciated.
God Bless America!
Thank you very much for your kind attention,
XXXXX,
Category : Employment based EB3 greencard category from India.
Priority Date : xx/xx/xxxx
To President its on change.gov site under Agenda-->Immigration.
Zoe' Lofgren's addresses are:
Priority Date : xx/xx/xxxx
District Office
635 North 1st Street, Suite B
San Jose, CA 95112
Telephone (408) 271-8700
Washington, D.C. Office
102 Cannon HOB
Washington, D.C. 20515
Telephone (202) 225-3072
Please find addresses at the bottom who to send.
Sub: Legal immigrants Quota Problem: Employment based EB2, EB3
Dear XXXX,
This is to once again thank you for your continuous efforts in making things move in the legal immigration front.
We would request you to bring HR 5882 to the table and hence help people waiting for so long get immediate relief. We think this is the best time to do it as there are so many waiting in long queues for so long and are unable to buy houses though they are at rock bottom prices now, or change companies as some of us would also like to, and start new companies and jobs. There are very much needed in this time of economic crisis. Applicants in EB3 and EB2 Employment based greencard category are severly backlogged.
The problem is mainly due to country based quotas and wastage of many greencards due to administrative delays over the years, as you know. This can easily be fixed with a simple administrative action and need not need to be done as part of the bigger comprehensive immigration bill. We too need a change.
Below are some statistics and details of the problem, just in case you missed a point.
1. High technology H1-B visas allowed into US = 85,000 H1B per year.
2. H1B quota limit per country = None, quota limits.
3. Greencard eligible candidates = All H1B holders
4. Total Employment Greencards = 145,000 per year.
5. Quota limits for greencards = 7% per country and each family member is counted as 1 visa.
6. H1 holders from India = 30,000 to 40,000 per year.
7. Greencards available for India by quota limits = 2000 � 3000 per year.
8. People waiting in Queues = 37,000 � 38,000 per year.
9. Estimated wait = 10- 15 years per life.
10. Estimated loss of productivity = unlimited.
11. Loss of health and health related issues due to these worries = incalculable.
Consequences:
1. EB3 Employment based category from India is severely backlogged,
2. Number of applicants in Queues waiting to buy house = 300,000
3. Number of applicants in Queues buying a house now = 0.
4. Money spent by applicants on rent per year = $6 billion
5. Number of applicants having Citizen children born in US = 80%
6. Number of applicants unable to start own companies(as they are tied to employer all the time due to greencard sponsorship)
= 30-40%
7. Applicants disappointed and leaving US = 10-15%
8. Applicants planning to come back after retirement who take with them US Citizens who will sponsor them = everybody who is leaving US right now with Citizen kids
9. Burden on social security and healthcare by applicants in point 7 = billions of dollars.
10. Severe pain for everyone wasting time on worries and uncertainity.
11. Many people thinking of returning back, very disappointed.
Solution
Please provide immediate relief. We are still holding our bags in hands even after 5-10 years of playing it by law after applying for greencards. Please respect liberty and freedom and let that happen to legal applicants.
1. Please remove country quotas for greencards immediately to make waiting less for legal employer based EB2/EB3 applicants from India in long queues ALREADY in US for years.
2. This needs No new jobs or Visas. It�s just a simple fix to help bring joy to some legal immigrants and give them freedom to contribute more.
3. Please provide greencards for any legal employment based applicant who lived in US for atleast 5 years and is waiting for more than 5 years and paid taxes and live like a good American Citizen.
4. Please provide Citizenship for anyone who lived in US for 10 years and played by the rules all the time and paid taxes.
5. This will help people buy houses that are so cheap now which will pump in $40 billion even if 50% people buy houses.
6. Construction jobs increase as people start buying houses.
7. Manufacturing and auto industry improves as people start buying cars again due to renewed confidence. Else they continue to adjust with their old cars for now.
8. A fee of $1000-$3000 can be applied for premium processing which can generate $1.5 billion instantly.
9. Stop the distribution of 50000 diversity greencards lottery per year immediately. This is bad in the current times, when people are waiting in legal queues for ever.
10. Issue greencards immediately to anyone who did PhD in US and to Masters Students.. They will be more productive if you help here.
11. Please don�t wait for CIR to have these. This is a small admin fix, no new visas or jobs.
Please let us feel respected for playing by the rules. It will come back to the American people in full gratitude in the form of jobs and renewed vigor.
WE TOO NEED A CHANGE NOW.
A positive action in this regard will be very highly appreciated.
God Bless America!
Thank you very much for your kind attention,
XXXXX,
Category : Employment based EB3 greencard category from India.
Priority Date : xx/xx/xxxx
To President its on change.gov site under Agenda-->Immigration.
Zoe' Lofgren's addresses are:
Priority Date : xx/xx/xxxx
District Office
635 North 1st Street, Suite B
San Jose, CA 95112
Telephone (408) 271-8700
Washington, D.C. Office
102 Cannon HOB
Washington, D.C. 20515
Telephone (202) 225-3072
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bp333
03-04 06:25 PM
After reading all these, got curious and checked status of my cases online after a year. I got a soft lud on my, my wife & son's case on 02/25. Something is definitely happening.
Sorry for being ignorant. How can we determine LUD (last update date) and what is meant my soft LUD ?
Sorry for being ignorant. How can we determine LUD (last update date) and what is meant my soft LUD ?
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insbaby
08-13 03:58 PM
We can write letters, emails, fax, contribute to IV but nothing is gonna help. This is the fact!
Yes. It may help, but EB3 is not the one who is going to get any piece out of it, as EB2 is increasing in huge amount. Even if it is CURRENT for 10 years, thats not going to help anyone below that level as everyone will qualify for EB2 in future, almost all the future candidates will have minimum of 5 years experience.
1. Live with this. Don't come to any forum, don't think about VISA bulletin. Take your Gc when it comes to your doorstep. May be by then, we may not need it. We may be tired of being on the same job and GC may not bring any
motivation to our career.
Well, if one decided to continue the process of waiting, there won't be any career to talk about at the end.
2. Move over to EB2 - If possible, take all the pains of changing job, place of living, unpredictability in PERM queue and I140 queue and move over to EB2. But you never know. One of our Indian brothers might have just won a lawsuit to stop us from moving over!! In that sense, EB3 I is worst than illegals. Least wanted legals in the USA!!
Not possible for all to go to EB2 as most of the companies hesitate to spend huge amount again and same is applicable to the individual too. It may not be worth at the end to spend another 5K on this. Well said, we should then fight with our own friends (because they may not like us to get the Lion's share) before going to DOS and USCIS.
3. Get out of this country - Give up the American dream and come to reality and start a new dream. May be Canadian dream or Australian dream...
I am waking up from 'abroad' dream. The real dream in front is "Home", without any issue that works for me.
Yes. It may help, but EB3 is not the one who is going to get any piece out of it, as EB2 is increasing in huge amount. Even if it is CURRENT for 10 years, thats not going to help anyone below that level as everyone will qualify for EB2 in future, almost all the future candidates will have minimum of 5 years experience.
1. Live with this. Don't come to any forum, don't think about VISA bulletin. Take your Gc when it comes to your doorstep. May be by then, we may not need it. We may be tired of being on the same job and GC may not bring any
motivation to our career.
Well, if one decided to continue the process of waiting, there won't be any career to talk about at the end.
2. Move over to EB2 - If possible, take all the pains of changing job, place of living, unpredictability in PERM queue and I140 queue and move over to EB2. But you never know. One of our Indian brothers might have just won a lawsuit to stop us from moving over!! In that sense, EB3 I is worst than illegals. Least wanted legals in the USA!!
Not possible for all to go to EB2 as most of the companies hesitate to spend huge amount again and same is applicable to the individual too. It may not be worth at the end to spend another 5K on this. Well said, we should then fight with our own friends (because they may not like us to get the Lion's share) before going to DOS and USCIS.
3. Get out of this country - Give up the American dream and come to reality and start a new dream. May be Canadian dream or Australian dream...
I am waking up from 'abroad' dream. The real dream in front is "Home", without any issue that works for me.
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ind_game
05-15 11:01 AM
dear members,
please post ideas on how we can all collectively address such issues. We have to spread awareness, get attention from law makers, remove the fear instilled into minds of people, guide people in the right direction.
Ideas and suggestions are welcome.
I would say we should start with local congressional office. Every case whether it is resolved or not should be taken to the attention of local congressional office.
If members volunteer to do this, we could distribute districts among ourselves and take care of each district's congressional office. In that way we could raise the awareness among the lawmakers. I do agree that not every office will be friendly to immigrants like my district's congressional office, but we have to try.
please post ideas on how we can all collectively address such issues. We have to spread awareness, get attention from law makers, remove the fear instilled into minds of people, guide people in the right direction.
Ideas and suggestions are welcome.
I would say we should start with local congressional office. Every case whether it is resolved or not should be taken to the attention of local congressional office.
If members volunteer to do this, we could distribute districts among ourselves and take care of each district's congressional office. In that way we could raise the awareness among the lawmakers. I do agree that not every office will be friendly to immigrants like my district's congressional office, but we have to try.
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singhsa3
09-12 07:21 PM
Let us agree on the format of letter first:
***************
Suggested Message:
Hon. Mr. ??,
I would like to register my protest with you for not following an orderly method when approving I-485 applications. In the last two months, while the priority dates were current for several applicants from India in the EB2 category, the applications with later priority dates and later receipt dates got their I-485 approved by USICS. This has generated a great anxiety among those who have been waiting patiently in the line before them.
I being one such affected person, is sending you this letter with a ???? as a symbol of my protest and hope that USCIS will deal fairly with all the applicants in the order of priority and receipt dates of their I-485 applications.
Thanks
Your Name
***************
Suggested Message:
Hon. Mr. ??,
I would like to register my protest with you for not following an orderly method when approving I-485 applications. In the last two months, while the priority dates were current for several applicants from India in the EB2 category, the applications with later priority dates and later receipt dates got their I-485 approved by USICS. This has generated a great anxiety among those who have been waiting patiently in the line before them.
I being one such affected person, is sending you this letter with a ???? as a symbol of my protest and hope that USCIS will deal fairly with all the applicants in the order of priority and receipt dates of their I-485 applications.
Thanks
Your Name
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GCBy3000
07-06 12:15 PM
Look at the mistake again
http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_3266.html
Effective Monday July 2, 2007 there will be no further authorizations in response to requests for Employment-based preference cases. All numbers available to these categories under the FY-2007 annual numerical limitation have been made available.
IS THIS A MISTAKE OR REAL
http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_3266.html
Effective Monday July 2, 2007 there will be no further authorizations in response to requests for Employment-based preference cases. All numbers available to these categories under the FY-2007 annual numerical limitation have been made available.
IS THIS A MISTAKE OR REAL
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arunmohan
10-21 06:41 PM
We are referring the Michael Yates's memo in the letter but why we not referring the Donald Neufeld's Memo?
http://www.uscis.gov/files/nativedocuments/AC21_30May08.pdf
http://www.uscis.gov/files/nativedocuments/AC21_30May08.pdf
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mrdelhiite
06-22 06:28 PM
The employer can establish an account for an attorney or other agent at http://www.plc.doleta.gov. It's unique PERM cases filed by that employer.
hmm maybe they should hire some Indians to do there software design ... :-) jk :p
-M
hmm maybe they should hire some Indians to do there software design ... :-) jk :p
-M
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09-12 05:04 PM
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vkannan
03-03 06:41 PM
That is not true, my lawyer who is very influential and he has some good contacts he told me that this year spill-over would be different form last year. I was stupid so didn�t believe him about July 2007, and paying it for now for not having EAD.
I know this is hard to believe especially if something comes from lawyer.
Thank's
MDix
Buddy, you are scaring EB2 folks a bit there with your comment (including self...) anyways I truly feel ppl. who applied before me should get their GC....it doesn't matter which category they are in.....anyways buddy your profile says you have a PD in 2008, why do u say you missed 2007 fiasco???:confused:
I know this is hard to believe especially if something comes from lawyer.
Thank's
MDix
Buddy, you are scaring EB2 folks a bit there with your comment (including self...) anyways I truly feel ppl. who applied before me should get their GC....it doesn't matter which category they are in.....anyways buddy your profile says you have a PD in 2008, why do u say you missed 2007 fiasco???:confused:
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gcadream
02-24 08:47 AM
Dear Sakthisagar
As you said that you applied for H1 extn in 2009 and got extended only for 1 yr instead of 3 yrs [as your I-140 was approved], this means that this yr if suppose you have to apply for H1 extn again that means again the employer has to pay around 4000$ for extn and your have to pay again around 500$ for H4 extn correct ?
As you said that you applied for H1 extn in 2009 and got extended only for 1 yr instead of 3 yrs [as your I-140 was approved], this means that this yr if suppose you have to apply for H1 extn again that means again the employer has to pay around 4000$ for extn and your have to pay again around 500$ for H4 extn correct ?
singhsa3
04-30 04:33 PM
Apume, I have send u a private messgae
Do I have legal broadcasting rights of uploading this for public viewing?
Rather, is it legal to do this?
if not i can send it to your gmail...
Do I have legal broadcasting rights of uploading this for public viewing?
Rather, is it legal to do this?
if not i can send it to your gmail...
mbawa2574
07-06 12:20 AM
mbawa.. It is always nice to sit on the side and blame it all on the leaders here. First thing you have to remember is that these poor/great folks (poor for representing people like you and great for working for representing all immigrant hopefuls) are really working for YOU and me. It is quite convenient to blame others than doing things yourself. If you think you are any better, why not come up with your USEFUL/GREAT ideas and see if the IV core respects those ideas or not. Lobbying or not, when the government is ready to think about CIR or immigration in general, I am pretty sure that IV can make OUR voice heard. Got the point?
Problem is not the members but the overall stratergy. I understand ur emotions but certainly we need change and action. Without aggressive stratergy that can punch the noses of people against our agenda, we will not be successful. As I said - this is not personal at all. I know some of core people very well and they are competent and bright boys. This has to do with overall stratergy and we need to be bit more agressive .Without a new team which will bring in a coordinated effort & energy into this , we will not make it. CIR may get passed and other immigration categories may benefit at our cost if we don't change our course . Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Problem is not the members but the overall stratergy. I understand ur emotions but certainly we need change and action. Without aggressive stratergy that can punch the noses of people against our agenda, we will not be successful. As I said - this is not personal at all. I know some of core people very well and they are competent and bright boys. This has to do with overall stratergy and we need to be bit more agressive .Without a new team which will bring in a coordinated effort & energy into this , we will not make it. CIR may get passed and other immigration categories may benefit at our cost if we don't change our course . Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
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