somegchuh
01-03 04:11 PM
I think you bring up very valid points. For a lot of ppl who have stayed away from family/extended family for so long, they may not like the constant interference.
"I miss my parents" is not quantifiable but what about the paying back the debt by supporting your aging parents? Let me make the question a little broader, isn't every immigrant divided between doing what's best for the children and supporting the parents?
for some it is money, for others it is about taking care of parents etc.
for me it is all about where I would like to live, grow and bring up my child. to me the answer is very clear. while this country is not perfect, no country on this planet is. if a human makes an objective list based on quantifiable pros and cons, the decision is very easy to make.
as for stuff like "I miss my parents" that is not quantifiable and should never figure in the discussion. what is the guarantee that you can return to your home country and live in the same city as you parents do? what happens if your kids don't want the grandparents to interfere in their lives? what happens if you cannot take constant interference from friends and extended family?
my reasons may come across as cold and calculating. however, it is an inhospitable world we live in and it is up to us to provide the best possible cocoon for our immediate family and that is exactly what I intend to do.
"I miss my parents" is not quantifiable but what about the paying back the debt by supporting your aging parents? Let me make the question a little broader, isn't every immigrant divided between doing what's best for the children and supporting the parents?
for some it is money, for others it is about taking care of parents etc.
for me it is all about where I would like to live, grow and bring up my child. to me the answer is very clear. while this country is not perfect, no country on this planet is. if a human makes an objective list based on quantifiable pros and cons, the decision is very easy to make.
as for stuff like "I miss my parents" that is not quantifiable and should never figure in the discussion. what is the guarantee that you can return to your home country and live in the same city as you parents do? what happens if your kids don't want the grandparents to interfere in their lives? what happens if you cannot take constant interference from friends and extended family?
my reasons may come across as cold and calculating. however, it is an inhospitable world we live in and it is up to us to provide the best possible cocoon for our immediate family and that is exactly what I intend to do.
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vandanaverdia
09-09 02:43 PM
Signed up for volunteering too.
Waiting for details.
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09-12 01:37 PM
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12-18 05:46 PM
what will be will be
let's not lack in our efforts though
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please join us in both campaigns
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It will help if we know exactly how much more money is demanded by our lobbyst. Obviously, the money goes primarily to them.
let's not lack in our efforts though
there are two campaigns underway:
add a member and
contribute at least $20
by Dec 31
funds and members...are the key to our success
please join us in both campaigns
Thanks!
It will help if we know exactly how much more money is demanded by our lobbyst. Obviously, the money goes primarily to them.
ujjwal_p
09-10 06:55 PM
This will depend on two factors
Demand from EB1 and EB2-ROW
USCIS allocation strategy (Quarterly spillover or year end spillover)
From historic data I have seen some 15-25k visa spillover to EB2/EB3 India-China, this number varies based on demand of various EB categories each year.
With H-1B cap coming down in 2004 to 65000, demand should go down by a decent margin post 2004, since its the H-1B's which will lead up to the EB queue.
By the way Sachug/vdlrao, do we know if this will be yearly or quarterly spillover. If it is year end, what does this mean? September or July(beginning of last quarter)? And I am sure there is documentation about this new horizontal spillover method from USCIS, but I can't seem to find it. Could someone point me to that. Thanks!
Demand from EB1 and EB2-ROW
USCIS allocation strategy (Quarterly spillover or year end spillover)
From historic data I have seen some 15-25k visa spillover to EB2/EB3 India-China, this number varies based on demand of various EB categories each year.
With H-1B cap coming down in 2004 to 65000, demand should go down by a decent margin post 2004, since its the H-1B's which will lead up to the EB queue.
By the way Sachug/vdlrao, do we know if this will be yearly or quarterly spillover. If it is year end, what does this mean? September or July(beginning of last quarter)? And I am sure there is documentation about this new horizontal spillover method from USCIS, but I can't seem to find it. Could someone point me to that. Thanks!
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06-02 07:37 PM
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11-06 12:21 AM
Dear Jimi,
I am here in Los Angeles County in the city of Pasadena. It would be really nice if we could organize the So Cal Chapter and coordinate our " meet the lawmakers type meetings in the LA/San Diego area.
Thanks for taking the lead on this one. I will ask others that I know in LA to join this capter as well.
Thanks.
AS
I am here in Los Angeles County in the city of Pasadena. It would be really nice if we could organize the So Cal Chapter and coordinate our " meet the lawmakers type meetings in the LA/San Diego area.
Thanks for taking the lead on this one. I will ask others that I know in LA to join this capter as well.
Thanks.
AS
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mirage
04-01 12:10 PM
It is time now we ask USCIS about this information. More than DOS or DOL it is the USCIS who has all this information in their bags like how many applications they have from high chargeability countries, of which year and which categories. So we stop predicting and be ready for the real....
With all the revenue and system they have, do you think this is so tough to streamline? I doubt.
They can, at the minimum, have the cases in sequence, process per FIFO, control PD movements logically. The minimum they can do, easily.
With all the revenue and system they have, do you think this is so tough to streamline? I doubt.
They can, at the minimum, have the cases in sequence, process per FIFO, control PD movements logically. The minimum they can do, easily.
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06-21 01:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFajGU
This has been there since a long time . Every new process has its backes and the resisters . The president of the US resisted the telephone also when Edison invented it . Relax don't lose your sleep about it . Atlanta is backlogged due to the incompetence and heavy workload of workers there . nothing more , nothing less .
This has been there since a long time . Every new process has its backes and the resisters . The president of the US resisted the telephone also when Edison invented it . Relax don't lose your sleep about it . Atlanta is backlogged due to the incompetence and heavy workload of workers there . nothing more , nothing less .
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RNGC
06-24 03:04 PM
Thanks...
Here is an article on contribution of Legal Immigrants to Social Security:
http://www.nfap.net/researchactivities/studies/SocialSecurityStudy2005.pdf
RNGC, excellent thread, looks like pessimistic folks have taking this thread for a ride.
America stands to loose in many ways. Here is why..
A study by Kauffman Foundation shows that "an average 13.25-year lag between a key founder�s arrival in the United States and firm formation" - source : http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=991327#PaperDownload
Loosing well trained individuals due to frustration with the immigration system or due to expired visa duration is equivalent to outsourcing. impact of outsourcing to the US economy is very well debated these days.
Another Kauffman report shows Immigrants were involved in 25% of the US patents approved in 2006 - Source : http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1008366#PaperDownload
This leads to reverse-brain drain phenomena who's effects to the economy are well documented.
Here is couple of NFAP study about
The impact of immigrant Entrepreneurs and professionals on the US competitiveness:
http://www.nfap.com/researchactivities/studies/immigrant_entreprenuers_professionals_november_200 6.pdf
Driving Jobs and innovation offshore:
http://www.nfap.com/pdf/071206study.pdf
Stalling the career path through GC backlogs will impede the creativity of the individuals and hence dampen their entrepreneurial spirit. It also kills the innovative spirits in the individuals.
Those who feel that "grass is greener on the other side" will jump to the other side irrespective of their GC backlog issues, their criteria is different. But there are many who believes that the American system cultivates innovation and entrepreneurial skills, for them the GC backlog is a drag on their growth.
EB1/2/3 is not a delimiter to innovation, innovation happens at all levels. All EB1's aren't PhD's, there are quite a few PhD's in EB2 and similarly there are quite a few MS folks in EB3 too. By saying US just wants EB1 is utter disrespect to fellow professionals who are not on EB1.
Here is an article on contribution of Legal Immigrants to Social Security:
http://www.nfap.net/researchactivities/studies/SocialSecurityStudy2005.pdf
RNGC, excellent thread, looks like pessimistic folks have taking this thread for a ride.
America stands to loose in many ways. Here is why..
A study by Kauffman Foundation shows that "an average 13.25-year lag between a key founder�s arrival in the United States and firm formation" - source : http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=991327#PaperDownload
Loosing well trained individuals due to frustration with the immigration system or due to expired visa duration is equivalent to outsourcing. impact of outsourcing to the US economy is very well debated these days.
Another Kauffman report shows Immigrants were involved in 25% of the US patents approved in 2006 - Source : http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1008366#PaperDownload
This leads to reverse-brain drain phenomena who's effects to the economy are well documented.
Here is couple of NFAP study about
The impact of immigrant Entrepreneurs and professionals on the US competitiveness:
http://www.nfap.com/researchactivities/studies/immigrant_entreprenuers_professionals_november_200 6.pdf
Driving Jobs and innovation offshore:
http://www.nfap.com/pdf/071206study.pdf
Stalling the career path through GC backlogs will impede the creativity of the individuals and hence dampen their entrepreneurial spirit. It also kills the innovative spirits in the individuals.
Those who feel that "grass is greener on the other side" will jump to the other side irrespective of their GC backlog issues, their criteria is different. But there are many who believes that the American system cultivates innovation and entrepreneurial skills, for them the GC backlog is a drag on their growth.
EB1/2/3 is not a delimiter to innovation, innovation happens at all levels. All EB1's aren't PhD's, there are quite a few PhD's in EB2 and similarly there are quite a few MS folks in EB3 too. By saying US just wants EB1 is utter disrespect to fellow professionals who are not on EB1.
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09-12 10:03 PM
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Can you please make that "equals" from "crosses". :D (I am sorry written too much code in my life)
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Can you please make that "equals" from "crosses". :D (I am sorry written too much code in my life)
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02-07 11:27 PM
i am going to marry my sister's daughter.. Sweet girl
All the girls are not like that. ;)
anyway my comments are about the crazy, career oriented, tradition less girls. And most of teh US girls are like that. Ofcourse not 100%, there may be few jewels..
All the girls are not like that. ;)
anyway my comments are about the crazy, career oriented, tradition less girls. And most of teh US girls are like that. Ofcourse not 100%, there may be few jewels..
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willwin
06-11 11:49 AM
anyone wants to guess as to when EB3(I) will reach 2003 Dec. I know it is long long time away but it has to reach that date some time in the future.
Going by what has happened this year, assuming no legislation relief in the near future, dates are NOT going to move forward for EB3 for a very long time. The movement would be slow for EB2 I as well.
Reason, USCIS would have more resources (available) starting next FY and also if they were able to use up all VISA numbers in a FY when they had to handle several hundred thousands of EAD/AP besides naturalization cases, starting next year it is going to be an easy bet for them. So, the dates would move forward very slowly (with all the new I140 approvals coming in).
However, if there was any legislation relief, then it would be a different ball game altogether. May be we will see a repeat of 2002-2004 when all categories were current.
Going by what has happened this year, assuming no legislation relief in the near future, dates are NOT going to move forward for EB3 for a very long time. The movement would be slow for EB2 I as well.
Reason, USCIS would have more resources (available) starting next FY and also if they were able to use up all VISA numbers in a FY when they had to handle several hundred thousands of EAD/AP besides naturalization cases, starting next year it is going to be an easy bet for them. So, the dates would move forward very slowly (with all the new I140 approvals coming in).
However, if there was any legislation relief, then it would be a different ball game altogether. May be we will see a repeat of 2002-2004 when all categories were current.
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10-05 08:49 AM
I am pessimistic about it too. It won't attract congress's attention until news breaking out that, patients are dying due to lack of nurses.
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vdlrao
07-11 08:16 AM
I have expected EB2 India would move Fast but I didnt expect it would move like Super Fast. Really good for EB2. But the thing infront of us now is to work for EB3 INDIA and EB3 ROW.
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shankar_thanu
07-18 12:49 PM
after going through some of the posts, i understand that there were earlier attempts to add SKIL amendments to other bills but it didnt fly..
Was there similar attempts to add provisions to 'capture unused numbers' and 'not include dependents for visa number count' to other bills before? Are these much more difficult to get done? Just want to know the history of these issues in the legislature...
Was there similar attempts to add provisions to 'capture unused numbers' and 'not include dependents for visa number count' to other bills before? Are these much more difficult to get done? Just want to know the history of these issues in the legislature...
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mdmd10
07-23 03:56 PM
It is good to know someone with PD Aug 2004 in EB3 from India is getting approval. This gives me confidence that there are not many people waiting in line when the doors open in Oct 2007 with new quota.:)
PD for EB3 India in the June Visa Bulletin was 1st June 2003, meaning all those whose Priority Date on the LC on or before 01st June 2003 are eligible to apply for the next 2 stages.
If so, how could someone with a PD of Aug 2004 in EB3 India apply? Perhaps I am missing something.
PD for EB3 India in the June Visa Bulletin was 1st June 2003, meaning all those whose Priority Date on the LC on or before 01st June 2003 are eligible to apply for the next 2 stages.
If so, how could someone with a PD of Aug 2004 in EB3 India apply? Perhaps I am missing something.
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paskal
07-11 11:49 AM
I dont get it for EB3 India. First they said once we get over the APR 01 hump we should be move quicker. Well guess what we DID get over that hump. Why the heck arent the dates moving at all for us?
this is surprising. really the dates should move- at least some. i keep thinking with each bulletin that EB3 will surely move now but it just has not happened. at this moment of course they have simply made it U. i wonder though if the dates will move when the october quota comes in.
this is surprising. really the dates should move- at least some. i keep thinking with each bulletin that EB3 will surely move now but it just has not happened. at this moment of course they have simply made it U. i wonder though if the dates will move when the october quota comes in.
pankajkakkar
08-08 02:22 PM
Pankaj, the writeup is spot on except for the above. I am not sure it takes anyone in the EB category, 20 years to get the GC. It may happen in the future if retrogression is not fixed.
IMHO, it is important that we stick to facts when we write articles/op eds etc.
You make a good point. However, since I have mentioned both EB and FB in the article, I think it is appropriate to include that it can in fact take 20 years to get the GC. The Senate bill does have provisions to ameliorate both EB and FB backlogs, as far as I remember.
Pankaj
IMHO, it is important that we stick to facts when we write articles/op eds etc.
You make a good point. However, since I have mentioned both EB and FB in the article, I think it is appropriate to include that it can in fact take 20 years to get the GC. The Senate bill does have provisions to ameliorate both EB and FB backlogs, as far as I remember.
Pankaj
carbon
08-15 02:04 PM
America has always been a favorite destination for immigrants. In the past, labor jobs were abundant and there were enough immigrants to do those jobs. This mutual dependency contributed to the growth of the United States making it the fastest growing industrial nation in the world. Things have changed, labor immigrants have been replaced by high-tech and skilled immigrants, but two things have not changed. 1. America depends on immigrants to sustain growth and 2. Immigrants come to America to fulfill their dreams. This 300 year old interdependence is very important yet under appreciated by the lawmakers.
Skilled workers of foreign nationality are well educated, creative and ambitious individuals. They act as a �steroid� for the nation. They charge the nation with prosperity and growth. Generally countries depend on their younger generation and hope that they will become highly productive and good citizens contributing to the growth of their nation in future, however only few countries are blessed with the strong stream of immigrants with highly desirable qualities to make progress today, not tomorrow. It seems America is highly blessed in that regard. But unfortunately the lawmakers don�t seem to recognize how fortunate their country. Following facts support my observation:
1. World has entered information and biotech age. India and China has the biggest technological talent pool
waiting to settle down in USA, yet the immigration quota for these countries is locked to extremely small
and fixed number for decades due to half-century old laws. The laws does not take reality into account.
2. In the days of online stock trading, visa processing is still done at extremely slow pace.
3. The positive impact of immigrants has been taken for granted.
4. Immigration is considered a charity rather than an important factor in country�s growth. The attitude is not right.
If such ignorance continues in the United States following will happen:
1. Innovation will slowdown. It has already begun.
2. Technology companies will migrate to India and China.
3. Large scale outsourcing will occur for technological and knowledge based jobs.
4. Stock indexes will move south, as there won�t be many attractive places to invest money. High profits normally come from high growth companies and today�s high growth companies come from technology sector.
5. Tax revenues will decrease, which will affect all government activities including defense and public education.
6. The effects of illegal immigration will become severe as American�s will compete for low wage �blue collar� jobs as a result of outsourcing.
7. Severe retrogression in immigration will not allow skilled workers to settle down or adapt to ever changing skills market. It will hinder the growth of each skilled worker due to lack of long-term planning, long-term investments and developments. These people will not be able to plant the trees that can reap the fruits for generations to come.
8. The effect of not having skilled immigrants in the country will not be zero , but it will be negative and counter-productive as most skilled workers will go back to their home country and instead of contributing to the growth of America , they will compete.
9. National moral level continues to decrease as more American citizens are going into jails than good foreign nationals coming in!
All these effects will be slow in the beginning, but will be visible when it will cross the �tipping point�. A place from where there is no return.
The solution:
Remove the limit on immigration quota for technology professionals for 5 years to solve current retrogression crisis. There after update the quotas (increase or decrease) every year to keep delays constant at 1,2 and 3 years for EB1,EB2 and EB3 categories respectively.
In my view, 5 million well educated and talented legal immigrants are always better for the country than 5 million illegal immigrants. Its better to rely on technology to improve American life style than on illegal immigrants to do cheap labor.
Skilled workers of foreign nationality are well educated, creative and ambitious individuals. They act as a �steroid� for the nation. They charge the nation with prosperity and growth. Generally countries depend on their younger generation and hope that they will become highly productive and good citizens contributing to the growth of their nation in future, however only few countries are blessed with the strong stream of immigrants with highly desirable qualities to make progress today, not tomorrow. It seems America is highly blessed in that regard. But unfortunately the lawmakers don�t seem to recognize how fortunate their country. Following facts support my observation:
1. World has entered information and biotech age. India and China has the biggest technological talent pool
waiting to settle down in USA, yet the immigration quota for these countries is locked to extremely small
and fixed number for decades due to half-century old laws. The laws does not take reality into account.
2. In the days of online stock trading, visa processing is still done at extremely slow pace.
3. The positive impact of immigrants has been taken for granted.
4. Immigration is considered a charity rather than an important factor in country�s growth. The attitude is not right.
If such ignorance continues in the United States following will happen:
1. Innovation will slowdown. It has already begun.
2. Technology companies will migrate to India and China.
3. Large scale outsourcing will occur for technological and knowledge based jobs.
4. Stock indexes will move south, as there won�t be many attractive places to invest money. High profits normally come from high growth companies and today�s high growth companies come from technology sector.
5. Tax revenues will decrease, which will affect all government activities including defense and public education.
6. The effects of illegal immigration will become severe as American�s will compete for low wage �blue collar� jobs as a result of outsourcing.
7. Severe retrogression in immigration will not allow skilled workers to settle down or adapt to ever changing skills market. It will hinder the growth of each skilled worker due to lack of long-term planning, long-term investments and developments. These people will not be able to plant the trees that can reap the fruits for generations to come.
8. The effect of not having skilled immigrants in the country will not be zero , but it will be negative and counter-productive as most skilled workers will go back to their home country and instead of contributing to the growth of America , they will compete.
9. National moral level continues to decrease as more American citizens are going into jails than good foreign nationals coming in!
All these effects will be slow in the beginning, but will be visible when it will cross the �tipping point�. A place from where there is no return.
The solution:
Remove the limit on immigration quota for technology professionals for 5 years to solve current retrogression crisis. There after update the quotas (increase or decrease) every year to keep delays constant at 1,2 and 3 years for EB1,EB2 and EB3 categories respectively.
In my view, 5 million well educated and talented legal immigrants are always better for the country than 5 million illegal immigrants. Its better to rely on technology to improve American life style than on illegal immigrants to do cheap labor.
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