vandanaverdia
09-08 03:04 PM
I agree... We have to help ourselves get out of this GC scenario. No one else can & will!!!
Wake up people! This is the time to get together & act!!!!
Wake up people! This is the time to get together & act!!!!
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paskal
07-17 07:40 PM
IV is basically saying EB3 folks stop all initiatives. Rather convert to EB2. It's comfortable to say IV core and decisionmakers are composed of EB2 folks.
you must know something i don't.
aman kapoor is the president and founder of iv- of course you can argue he now has his GC but that fact is he is still the heart and soul of iv and runs the organization on a day to day basis. he is EB3.
the "core group" does not much exist in practical terms right now. there is instead a large "leaders group" that helps coordinate actions and strategy.
this group has a lot of active members- and i find it "comfortable" to say that the majority are EB3. which may actually count for something- since i actually do know somethings you don't :-)
no one stops anyone from doing anything. but whatever you do (and yes you actually have to DO, not just keep talking), has to have a sound basis. Many of the suggestions put forward have flaws, and actually papu and others have been pretty helpful in politely helping to point those out and suggesting changes. of course reddog took objection even to that! incidentally, just for the record, you may want to look at pappu's profile . HE IS EB3!
so what do you want anyway? should we go tell USCIS that leftover Gc from EB2 ROW should go to EB3 ROW instead of EB2 I/C? what about the 28.6% that should belong to EB2? and since you are EB3 I- how does this help you in any way? or should we tell them to stop the preference catogories in INA and make EB1=EB2=Eb3? somehow i do not think that is going to fly.
where were you when USCIS implemented vertical spillover in 2006 and left EB2 I in a U state while giving EB2 Gc numbers to EB3 ROW?
did you object then? did you start a campaign? did EB2 I folks here start saying that iv did not care about them?
in 2007 ordinarily, (like 06) EB2 I and EB3 I would have got only 2,800 GC each. because of iv's efforts in reversing the july bulletin, EB3 I got a huge number of Gc instead. many more than any other category. i don't remember anyone else standing up and saying that this was unfair and that iv is all about EB3I. and that's what a lot of anti iv folks say. that iv is all about EB3 India. so this is very ironical.
and i see here a comment that every campaign has been bad for EB3 india.
i guess july reversal was bad. i guess the campaign for recapture is bad. and the 2 year EAD is bad too. not to mention the gathering support to end country quotas.
you opened my eyes :-)
you must know something i don't.
aman kapoor is the president and founder of iv- of course you can argue he now has his GC but that fact is he is still the heart and soul of iv and runs the organization on a day to day basis. he is EB3.
the "core group" does not much exist in practical terms right now. there is instead a large "leaders group" that helps coordinate actions and strategy.
this group has a lot of active members- and i find it "comfortable" to say that the majority are EB3. which may actually count for something- since i actually do know somethings you don't :-)
no one stops anyone from doing anything. but whatever you do (and yes you actually have to DO, not just keep talking), has to have a sound basis. Many of the suggestions put forward have flaws, and actually papu and others have been pretty helpful in politely helping to point those out and suggesting changes. of course reddog took objection even to that! incidentally, just for the record, you may want to look at pappu's profile . HE IS EB3!
so what do you want anyway? should we go tell USCIS that leftover Gc from EB2 ROW should go to EB3 ROW instead of EB2 I/C? what about the 28.6% that should belong to EB2? and since you are EB3 I- how does this help you in any way? or should we tell them to stop the preference catogories in INA and make EB1=EB2=Eb3? somehow i do not think that is going to fly.
where were you when USCIS implemented vertical spillover in 2006 and left EB2 I in a U state while giving EB2 Gc numbers to EB3 ROW?
did you object then? did you start a campaign? did EB2 I folks here start saying that iv did not care about them?
in 2007 ordinarily, (like 06) EB2 I and EB3 I would have got only 2,800 GC each. because of iv's efforts in reversing the july bulletin, EB3 I got a huge number of Gc instead. many more than any other category. i don't remember anyone else standing up and saying that this was unfair and that iv is all about EB3I. and that's what a lot of anti iv folks say. that iv is all about EB3 India. so this is very ironical.
and i see here a comment that every campaign has been bad for EB3 india.
i guess july reversal was bad. i guess the campaign for recapture is bad. and the 2 year EAD is bad too. not to mention the gathering support to end country quotas.
you opened my eyes :-)
Almond
07-05 10:20 AM
I called USCIS and she said based on the information she got from his authorities, she said all the 485 application packets will be rejected with a note saying that , please apply after oct 1st if your PD is current.
I also asked her if you dont send us back by oct 1st what sould we do, she said if I dont receive by August mid, then take infopass and go to local uscis office and request for my application back.
I think all the customer service agents are aware of the issue and got informed what to answer for our questions.
That's a relief because I called them a few times recently and found myself having to explain "the issue" to the customer service rep. Ridiculous to have something as major as this happen and they don't properly educate their Customer service department on it.
I also asked her if you dont send us back by oct 1st what sould we do, she said if I dont receive by August mid, then take infopass and go to local uscis office and request for my application back.
I think all the customer service agents are aware of the issue and got informed what to answer for our questions.
That's a relief because I called them a few times recently and found myself having to explain "the issue" to the customer service rep. Ridiculous to have something as major as this happen and they don't properly educate their Customer service department on it.
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franklin
09-27 11:11 AM
A total of 2.5M cases pending (AOS and naturalization), only 1.2M are ready for action.
For true backlog numbers look here, Ombudsman report, Page 14.
http://www.ilw.com/immigdaily/news/2007,0619-ombudsman.pdf
1.3M backlogged cases TOTAL (includes naturalization), out of which more than 800K are retrogresed family-based AOS petitions, and what looks like 30K EB petitions (cannot be approved due to statutory limits). 300K cases in namecheck, maybe 10% of them are EB (EB is about 13% of green cards), so we are having about 60K truly backloged EB cases in March 2007.
We know that cases that are current and not stuck in FBI checks are being approved farily fast, so my gut feeling is they have maybe 50-80K EB cases in active adjudication. Let's double-check -- out of 1.2 million cases ready for action, about a half is naturalization, and from the other half, ~13% would be EB - yep, 80K (EBs are the easiest to approve because there are no interviews or tests, so the percentage is likely less than 13%).
So, in March 2007 there were a total of no more than 140K pending cases in I-485 stage of stocessing. Now in June-August EVERYONE who had an approved LC got to apply, and there were ~300K applications, while CIS gave out ~70K green cards, so we would have a total of 370K pending petitions. This estimate is surprisingly close to 13% of the total 2.5M backlog, so I would consider it good.
Again, I absolutely do not believe there are more than 500K EB1-EB3 cases. There may be another 500K in the 'other worker' category, but this is not what we are talking about here.
We can argue who is right on the numbers for a long time, The Ombudsman, who quote that they can not say for sure what the numbers are, or the kauffman Report who claim 1.1 million. Even if we go with your number of "no more than 500K" - thats a 3 year wait if there are no more country caps.
Also from the Ombudsman:-
"In FY 06, over 10,000 employment-based visas were lost, even though USCIS had an estimated 100,000 to 150,000 pending applications for employment-based green cards." - Pending applications for employment-based green cards means "application approved pending visa number availability" - ie all but approved - waiting for a visa number, not all 485 applications.
"As of May 2007, USCIS reported a staggering 329,160 FBI name check cases pending"
I'm obviously not adding those numbers together, but I really believe that the numbers are larger than we think.
Remember to take out the visa's unsued each year (per the ombudsman, in the last 3 years, thats only 100k wasted) that brings down the number of visas available, and remember there are other visa paths into greencard application, not just H1B.
They also think there are roughly about 170K at BEC... that haven't hit yet. Add that to the number - all with old PD so you better believe their dates will come current sooner.
If you've read the Ombudsman's report, you should have figured out that things are NOT moving quickly
I've just realized, are you looking at just 485 numbers and not everyone in the EB GC queue?
Finally - if you've read the Ombudsman report from the past few years, they will look very similar to this years' one (although they gradually get more and more bleak). Nothing has change to make the situation better, so the expectation that all of a sudden things will get fast now still baffles me.
For true backlog numbers look here, Ombudsman report, Page 14.
http://www.ilw.com/immigdaily/news/2007,0619-ombudsman.pdf
1.3M backlogged cases TOTAL (includes naturalization), out of which more than 800K are retrogresed family-based AOS petitions, and what looks like 30K EB petitions (cannot be approved due to statutory limits). 300K cases in namecheck, maybe 10% of them are EB (EB is about 13% of green cards), so we are having about 60K truly backloged EB cases in March 2007.
We know that cases that are current and not stuck in FBI checks are being approved farily fast, so my gut feeling is they have maybe 50-80K EB cases in active adjudication. Let's double-check -- out of 1.2 million cases ready for action, about a half is naturalization, and from the other half, ~13% would be EB - yep, 80K (EBs are the easiest to approve because there are no interviews or tests, so the percentage is likely less than 13%).
So, in March 2007 there were a total of no more than 140K pending cases in I-485 stage of stocessing. Now in June-August EVERYONE who had an approved LC got to apply, and there were ~300K applications, while CIS gave out ~70K green cards, so we would have a total of 370K pending petitions. This estimate is surprisingly close to 13% of the total 2.5M backlog, so I would consider it good.
Again, I absolutely do not believe there are more than 500K EB1-EB3 cases. There may be another 500K in the 'other worker' category, but this is not what we are talking about here.
We can argue who is right on the numbers for a long time, The Ombudsman, who quote that they can not say for sure what the numbers are, or the kauffman Report who claim 1.1 million. Even if we go with your number of "no more than 500K" - thats a 3 year wait if there are no more country caps.
Also from the Ombudsman:-
"In FY 06, over 10,000 employment-based visas were lost, even though USCIS had an estimated 100,000 to 150,000 pending applications for employment-based green cards." - Pending applications for employment-based green cards means "application approved pending visa number availability" - ie all but approved - waiting for a visa number, not all 485 applications.
"As of May 2007, USCIS reported a staggering 329,160 FBI name check cases pending"
I'm obviously not adding those numbers together, but I really believe that the numbers are larger than we think.
Remember to take out the visa's unsued each year (per the ombudsman, in the last 3 years, thats only 100k wasted) that brings down the number of visas available, and remember there are other visa paths into greencard application, not just H1B.
They also think there are roughly about 170K at BEC... that haven't hit yet. Add that to the number - all with old PD so you better believe their dates will come current sooner.
If you've read the Ombudsman's report, you should have figured out that things are NOT moving quickly
I've just realized, are you looking at just 485 numbers and not everyone in the EB GC queue?
Finally - if you've read the Ombudsman report from the past few years, they will look very similar to this years' one (although they gradually get more and more bleak). Nothing has change to make the situation better, so the expectation that all of a sudden things will get fast now still baffles me.
sbabunle
04-09 06:01 PM
The quickets way would be approaching some consulting companies. If you need any names pls give pvt msg me.
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nrk
06-10 03:45 PM
Yes Sep 30th
from October 1st new fiscal year starts for USCIS
which month is FY-2010 end for USCIS? Sep?
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rdehar
07-20 04:43 PM
Even I have seen people at my client sites, filing 2-3 years after me get labors and I-140s, do a little 'I am going out to better job' dance and move on, while I have to turn down offers (with 30-40K salary increments !!)
But take heart my friend, "every dog has his day" :D
But take heart my friend, "every dog has his day" :D
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Abhinaym
01-13 09:26 AM
I disagree with you. I will try again but you can continue to disagree with me.
Guy from ROW joins Company A in 2001. The Company A files his EB2 ROW in 2004.
Guy from Retrogressed Country (India/China) joins same Company A in 2001. The Company A files his EB2 India in 2004.
That is absolutely right. I would also extend the argument from the perspective of the sponsoring employer.
The excessively longer wait would make the employer biased against hiring people from retrogressed countries with similar skills/experience.
Especially since this is an employment based category, I believe your line of argument should work!
Guy from ROW joins Company A in 2001. The Company A files his EB2 ROW in 2004.
Guy from Retrogressed Country (India/China) joins same Company A in 2001. The Company A files his EB2 India in 2004.
That is absolutely right. I would also extend the argument from the perspective of the sponsoring employer.
The excessively longer wait would make the employer biased against hiring people from retrogressed countries with similar skills/experience.
Especially since this is an employment based category, I believe your line of argument should work!
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needhelp!
02-07 02:18 PM
If you help us with the campaign, we won't need to extend it anymore.
If you extend the deadline anymore, you should change the name
If you extend the deadline anymore, you should change the name
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02-11 01:27 PM
I will do 50+ from my side over the weekend , sorry shadowing till now will post exact as i mail all these. I will try to pump up as much as i can .
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CAN YOU HELP YOUR STATE DO BETTER THAN THIS:
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TX - 343
Tristate - 133
FL - 102
KY - 55
MD/DC/VA - 37
MO - 26
PA - 25
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waiting4gc
07-19 12:02 AM
Normally vendors dont like going against the client. Especially after you have billed for them for a year already. Unofficially they let you go after 1 yr i.e. the vendor. Try to talk to your client and see if they are willing to apply pressure on the vendor to let you go. Also talk to your vendor and explain to him why you want to join client i.e. career growth, etc and tell your vendor that you can help him/her recruit more folks to fill in your position and stuff. Basically you will have to do some brown nosing with the vendor for the time being.
If nothing else works, ask the vendor what would it take to make this work i.e. money wise and stuff if you are willing to pony up some dough to make this happen.
Hi, I am currently on a Company A's payroll and working at a client's place (Company B); now that Company B wants me to join them; however, there is a contract between Companies A & B not to hire the employee directly; what should be done in this case? I also have a contractual obligation to my employer not to join the client for 12 months. My employer(Company A) is not willing to let me go (though I worked for a year already). Any advise from the forum?
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If nothing else works, ask the vendor what would it take to make this work i.e. money wise and stuff if you are willing to pony up some dough to make this happen.
Hi, I am currently on a Company A's payroll and working at a client's place (Company B); now that Company B wants me to join them; however, there is a contract between Companies A & B not to hire the employee directly; what should be done in this case? I also have a contractual obligation to my employer not to join the client for 12 months. My employer(Company A) is not willing to let me go (though I worked for a year already). Any advise from the forum?
Thanks
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GCKaIntezar
02-13 02:03 PM
Very well responded Jay.
I don't want to write in the forum just for the heck of it, but when I see non-sense posts like the one posted by a "talented leader", I just can't seem to stop. At some time, I just feel its not worth even 2 minutes of my time to read and respond to negative comments, but then I think these negative comments don't create a type of "Grass-root" org that we need. I'm starting to believe that people have no regard to whatever the "Volunteer" IV Core members are doing, they just like to post messages and induce negative discussions and when we feed the trolls, they get excited. So my point is - let's stop that. Let's not feed them - our time, our energy, our ideas.
We need to promote more of "WE ARE ALL IN IT TOGETHER", and each and every one of us "CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE". This can only happen with actions - Get active in State Chapters, post what you are doing there - that will create the sense of belonging and not by responding to every little negative comments that get posted.
Ok enough already.
-Sanjay
I don't want to write in the forum just for the heck of it, but when I see non-sense posts like the one posted by a "talented leader", I just can't seem to stop. At some time, I just feel its not worth even 2 minutes of my time to read and respond to negative comments, but then I think these negative comments don't create a type of "Grass-root" org that we need. I'm starting to believe that people have no regard to whatever the "Volunteer" IV Core members are doing, they just like to post messages and induce negative discussions and when we feed the trolls, they get excited. So my point is - let's stop that. Let's not feed them - our time, our energy, our ideas.
We need to promote more of "WE ARE ALL IN IT TOGETHER", and each and every one of us "CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE". This can only happen with actions - Get active in State Chapters, post what you are doing there - that will create the sense of belonging and not by responding to every little negative comments that get posted.
Ok enough already.
-Sanjay
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mirage
06-26 12:02 PM
I guess it is high time we write USCIS in mass sending a copy to the President’s and Vice president’s office and ask them to take off that Free EADs only for post 30th July filers thing. We should also ask them to give 2 year APs. I am preparig a letter I'm going to send it out soon, also to Congresswoman Zoe Logfren's office...
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alterego
09-04 05:05 PM
Someone asked earlier, who changed their mind after reading Jaime. I did after one of his earlier posts.
I was decided on not going, but then as I spent more time on this forum, I realized it is definitely the right thing to do. If not us speaking up then who? Simply answer that. How do lawmakers even know that we exist, that an injustice is happening to us, that we feel frustrated about our situation. They keep getting lopsided anti immigrant venom from some well organized and well funded groups and keep hearing about illegal immigration. Our pain however has resonance with them. We played by the rules, we came and lived legally at the invitation of our AMERICAN employers and the US gov't certified that there is no one to take the jobs we are doing, we paid taxes, we have integrated into society and we are asking, why are we being made to wait this long?
What's to feel bad or shy about in that?
I'll tell you something, those who are skeptical simply do not understand how this country works. It is a representative democracy and people pressure and protests and lobbying DO WORK. Otherwise lobbying would not be the biggest growth industry of the day. There is no other way to inspire change, and it has been, can and will be done. I have seen it time and over again.
The final point I wish to make is, those coming to this rally have pre-selected traits. They are the pre-selected ones who are programmed to be successful in this country. They understand it and are proactive and entrepreneural and willing to spend, take risks, take a leadership, are responsible and will do the right thing. These traits have been and will continue to be rewarded in the long run in this country. I wish we can project that our community has many of these people.
Those meek, follow the leader, risk averse, miserly, behind the back types, may have their little breadcrumbs but will never have the attributes to achieve anything of note in the USA anyway. They will continue to find lame excuses for their lack of progress.
Every reader needs to decide for themself which type he/she is. This is after all the greatest country in the world that you are asking for acceptance into.
I was decided on not going, but then as I spent more time on this forum, I realized it is definitely the right thing to do. If not us speaking up then who? Simply answer that. How do lawmakers even know that we exist, that an injustice is happening to us, that we feel frustrated about our situation. They keep getting lopsided anti immigrant venom from some well organized and well funded groups and keep hearing about illegal immigration. Our pain however has resonance with them. We played by the rules, we came and lived legally at the invitation of our AMERICAN employers and the US gov't certified that there is no one to take the jobs we are doing, we paid taxes, we have integrated into society and we are asking, why are we being made to wait this long?
What's to feel bad or shy about in that?
I'll tell you something, those who are skeptical simply do not understand how this country works. It is a representative democracy and people pressure and protests and lobbying DO WORK. Otherwise lobbying would not be the biggest growth industry of the day. There is no other way to inspire change, and it has been, can and will be done. I have seen it time and over again.
The final point I wish to make is, those coming to this rally have pre-selected traits. They are the pre-selected ones who are programmed to be successful in this country. They understand it and are proactive and entrepreneural and willing to spend, take risks, take a leadership, are responsible and will do the right thing. These traits have been and will continue to be rewarded in the long run in this country. I wish we can project that our community has many of these people.
Those meek, follow the leader, risk averse, miserly, behind the back types, may have their little breadcrumbs but will never have the attributes to achieve anything of note in the USA anyway. They will continue to find lame excuses for their lack of progress.
Every reader needs to decide for themself which type he/she is. This is after all the greatest country in the world that you are asking for acceptance into.
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bfadlia
01-13 04:42 PM
you are half right, the country quota laws were put much earlier than the off shoring companies, but remember that the retrogression only started in the last 10 years when those companies came in the picture and skewed the lines .. that's ur cause and effect!
I am in software and would be satisfied with resticting this rule to the software field, but feasibility wise, rules won't get micro-tailored this way.
I always tell myself i shouldn't go on with the discussion, but here i go again..
any 12 step process to quit?
You're confusing the cause-and-effect. The country quota laws were put in MUCH earlier than any offshoring companies started doing H1s. It might in fact be the opposite, meaning that these companies are hiring qualified people who weren't getting GCs.
And besides these companies are all software cos that came up in the last 10 yrs, why should that stupid rule affect any person in a non-software field?
Yes we know that the current rules make the journey longer. The point is that it is unfair and that's why we should start trying to change it!
Basically it is very difficult to understand another person's pain. Especially when you're set up to gain from it.
I am in software and would be satisfied with resticting this rule to the software field, but feasibility wise, rules won't get micro-tailored this way.
I always tell myself i shouldn't go on with the discussion, but here i go again..
any 12 step process to quit?
You're confusing the cause-and-effect. The country quota laws were put in MUCH earlier than any offshoring companies started doing H1s. It might in fact be the opposite, meaning that these companies are hiring qualified people who weren't getting GCs.
And besides these companies are all software cos that came up in the last 10 yrs, why should that stupid rule affect any person in a non-software field?
Yes we know that the current rules make the journey longer. The point is that it is unfair and that's why we should start trying to change it!
Basically it is very difficult to understand another person's pain. Especially when you're set up to gain from it.
nixstor
06-23 02:26 PM
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Rep Lamar Smith from Texas is the Ranking Member of the House Judiciary Committee and is a key member. His support will further strengthen the bipartisan support the bills currently has. He championed high skilled immigration bills in the past and we need to get his support on the bills that are before the Judiciary Committee now
Number to call
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I would like to talk to some one who handles Judiciary Committee issues or Immigration bills. If you get transferred to a person or a VM
Rep Smith has been a champion of high skilled immigration bills and I request Rep Smith to support similar bills such as HR5882, HR6039 and HR5921 that are currently before the House Judiciary committee. These bills have good bipartisan support and will increase American Competitiveness. I request Rep Smith to support these bills and increase the bi partisan support.
DO NOT get into illegal immigration discussion as that undercuts our message.
If asked whether you are from Rep Smith's district tell him/her that you are not from his district if you are not. Tell them that you called your rep and calling Rep Smith's office because Rep Smith is the Ranking member of the House Judiciary Committee and a champion of High skilled immigration.
Rep Lamar Smith from Texas is the Ranking Member of the House Judiciary Committee and is a key member. His support will further strengthen the bipartisan support the bills currently has. He championed high skilled immigration bills in the past and we need to get his support on the bills that are before the Judiciary Committee now
Number to call
202-225-4236 8:30am - 6:00pm EST, Monday - Friday
Note the 6 PM EST which is 5 PM CST.
Message
I would like to talk to some one who handles Judiciary Committee issues or Immigration bills. If you get transferred to a person or a VM
Rep Smith has been a champion of high skilled immigration bills and I request Rep Smith to support similar bills such as HR5882, HR6039 and HR5921 that are currently before the House Judiciary committee. These bills have good bipartisan support and will increase American Competitiveness. I request Rep Smith to support these bills and increase the bi partisan support.
DO NOT get into illegal immigration discussion as that undercuts our message.
If asked whether you are from Rep Smith's district tell him/her that you are not from his district if you are not. Tell them that you called your rep and calling Rep Smith's office because Rep Smith is the Ranking member of the House Judiciary Committee and a champion of High skilled immigration.
nightowl76
06-01 03:20 PM
Its a terrible tragedy when lives are lost. My heart goes out to the innocent victims and their family and friends.
Air France is conveniently blaming it on bad weather but I don't buy it...planes fly just fine in bad weather...at least well maintained planes. While their incompetency at customer service clearly shows, they are probably sub standard in maintenance and safety issues as well. Too bad innocent lives have to pay a price to bring that out.
Another reason not to fly Air France.
Air France is conveniently blaming it on bad weather but I don't buy it...planes fly just fine in bad weather...at least well maintained planes. While their incompetency at customer service clearly shows, they are probably sub standard in maintenance and safety issues as well. Too bad innocent lives have to pay a price to bring that out.
Another reason not to fly Air France.
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