gsc999
09-19 11:01 PM
First of all I think logiclife will go in the history of immigration books as the movers that existed in this generation. I am amazed at how motivated the IV core team is and how smoothly they have organized the whole show so far.
I salute you. Hats off to you guys.
I read a lot of newspaper articles after the rally and they always seemed to mention that Indian and Chinese legal aliens protesting backlogs. I think there should be some effort to also include people from other nationalities such as Russians, Englishmen, Philipinos, Chinese and other nationalities. Now I know they are not hit as hard as us but they go thru some serious backlog as well if they are in the EB3 category.
Question is I am thinking how?
Any ideas guys?
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Were you at the rally? Two most visible people were Franklin and Mark. Both are non-Indians.
But your point is well taken, let us know if you have any specific strategies to do this?f
I salute you. Hats off to you guys.
I read a lot of newspaper articles after the rally and they always seemed to mention that Indian and Chinese legal aliens protesting backlogs. I think there should be some effort to also include people from other nationalities such as Russians, Englishmen, Philipinos, Chinese and other nationalities. Now I know they are not hit as hard as us but they go thru some serious backlog as well if they are in the EB3 category.
Question is I am thinking how?
Any ideas guys?
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Were you at the rally? Two most visible people were Franklin and Mark. Both are non-Indians.
But your point is well taken, let us know if you have any specific strategies to do this?f
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jackisback
02-25 06:55 PM
Me and my wife had each sent a letter on Feb 10 to the President and the IV PO Box. I did not see my id in the names of peeps who sent a letter.
Just posting here to make sure you guys got the copies I sent you.
Maybe my letter was not considered in the total sent so far and there could be others like me.
Just a thought...
Just posting here to make sure you guys got the copies I sent you.
Maybe my letter was not considered in the total sent so far and there could be others like me.
Just a thought...
mirage
02-11 03:16 PM
I agree with you 100%. As this is true, lawmakers are very well aware of our grief, but none of them is saying it. They want to oppose legals in the name of opposing illegal immigration bills. If you look at CIR in 2006. First they put legals in the bill with illegals, then they oppose illegals, ultimately the result is no legal immigartion too. Nothing is getting passed in the congress for the legal immigration. what does it tell ?
Pappu,
This post does clarify visa recapture issues, but what about concurrent 140/485 filing ? Also, if our fate is still so tied up with 12+ millions illegals, doesn't that mean that we failed to make our case, even with so much media coverage, lobbying and our personal efforts to call the law makers. Could another explanation be that lawmakers have all but refised to treat us with dignity we deserved as an educated, law abiding, tax paying citizens contributing to the society. I believe that we didn't fail and we tried what we could but still lawmakers refuse to act on our casue, may be they are implying something without explicitly saying it ?
Pappu,
This post does clarify visa recapture issues, but what about concurrent 140/485 filing ? Also, if our fate is still so tied up with 12+ millions illegals, doesn't that mean that we failed to make our case, even with so much media coverage, lobbying and our personal efforts to call the law makers. Could another explanation be that lawmakers have all but refised to treat us with dignity we deserved as an educated, law abiding, tax paying citizens contributing to the society. I believe that we didn't fail and we tried what we could but still lawmakers refuse to act on our casue, may be they are implying something without explicitly saying it ?
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Dakota Newfie
03-21 04:16 PM
Not entirely correct. When as you say this country treats all Employment based immigrants equally, why set quotas, why distinguish between EB1, EB2 EB3 etc.
The point is there are rules and they tend to favor certain applicants over others in the queue. More education generally does mean more skill. It does not always mean more pay, but this country has decided to use education and work experience as the criterion for EB category allocation.
How can you say all nations have an equal opportunity to immigrate to the USA. That is patently false and you know it. Now you can defend it and say it is the US right to set its rules the way it wishes, and I can respect that, but to say it is equal opportunity is wrong.
What I have said all along is that EB immigration is to redound to the benefit of US EMPLOYERS not you or me. That is why the rules were skewed so much in their favor. Now, we agree there has been some abuse in this system, by those this system was meant to help, however its purpose remains intact. The rest of the rules are secondary to this intent, but nevertheless important.
The USCIS/DOS set quotas for visa numbers because the United States does not want to be overwhelmed with immigrants. And these quotas are spread evenly through all nations and ethnic backgrounds. Considering the populations of the "oversubscribed" nations, this is justified. I can see where the immigrants from these nations feel "discriminated against" in the fact that they receive a smaller percentage (NOT NUMBER) of visas per capita than ROW countries. This does not make the system unfair. And if you think that certain countries get special treatment, think again; there are plenty of people in ROW (like me) who have been waiting for years as well!
The point is there are rules and they tend to favor certain applicants over others in the queue. More education generally does mean more skill. It does not always mean more pay, but this country has decided to use education and work experience as the criterion for EB category allocation.
How can you say all nations have an equal opportunity to immigrate to the USA. That is patently false and you know it. Now you can defend it and say it is the US right to set its rules the way it wishes, and I can respect that, but to say it is equal opportunity is wrong.
What I have said all along is that EB immigration is to redound to the benefit of US EMPLOYERS not you or me. That is why the rules were skewed so much in their favor. Now, we agree there has been some abuse in this system, by those this system was meant to help, however its purpose remains intact. The rest of the rules are secondary to this intent, but nevertheless important.
The USCIS/DOS set quotas for visa numbers because the United States does not want to be overwhelmed with immigrants. And these quotas are spread evenly through all nations and ethnic backgrounds. Considering the populations of the "oversubscribed" nations, this is justified. I can see where the immigrants from these nations feel "discriminated against" in the fact that they receive a smaller percentage (NOT NUMBER) of visas per capita than ROW countries. This does not make the system unfair. And if you think that certain countries get special treatment, think again; there are plenty of people in ROW (like me) who have been waiting for years as well!
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485Mbe4001
07-17 02:49 PM
I was also told that there is new law which requires that the PERM fees should be paid by the employer (around 5-6k). Most desi consultancies used to ask the employees to pony up the labor fees. wonder how this will affect the conversion process.
I called couple of Desi consultancies..and they told me that lot of thier I-140's aqre getting rejected in this conversion drama...since they are looking for finanacials of the companies and looking for $3 mil of profits..? well do you have anybody who successfully converted from Eb-2-3 please IM me which companies I could contact...
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I called couple of Desi consultancies..and they told me that lot of thier I-140's aqre getting rejected in this conversion drama...since they are looking for finanacials of the companies and looking for $3 mil of profits..? well do you have anybody who successfully converted from Eb-2-3 please IM me which companies I could contact...
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ajm
09-25 11:06 PM
I have a good experience with them. They have filed all my applications without unnecessary delays and they were also proactive in informing me about the visa bulletin reversal at the end of June.
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grupak
06-23 06:13 PM
We will have to pick it up tomorrow.
Please make the call, it makes a difference.
Please make the call, it makes a difference.
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nogc_noproblem
05-22 03:05 PM
I am preparing I131 (AP) renewal application for me and my family. For my son, who is 8 years old, do I need to fill "Part 9. Signature of Person preparing the form, if other than the applicant" since I am preparing this form? OR can I just sign Part 8 on-behalf of my son?
G-28 form says it needs to be filled in case if you use Attorney or Representative. Just wondering whether I need to fill a G-28 form for the above AP renewal application for my son since I am filling Part 9 in his application.
Can somebody clarify? Thanks for your help.
G-28 form says it needs to be filled in case if you use Attorney or Representative. Just wondering whether I need to fill a G-28 form for the above AP renewal application for my son since I am filling Part 9 in his application.
Can somebody clarify? Thanks for your help.
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NKR
07-09 04:30 PM
Alongwith permission for H4 to work, there are several other problems that legal immigrants face in USA. However, lets face it ... its always a small set of people who are fighting for their green cards. After a prolonged wait, once they get the GC, they move on with their life, forgetting their own ordeal in the past, and ignoring the future problems of fresh GC aspirants in the queue.
Even the fresh GC aspirants who come to USA on H1/L1 visa, do not understand the importance of staying on top of their GC application and start organizing themselves. Mostly they realize the gravity of situation couple of year after their arrival, and start venting their anger and frustation on immigration forum like this.
A majority of immigrants think that the immigration doors should shut down immediately after they get their GC's. This transformation takes place overnight. I have never heard that from such a large population of immigrants who are settled in USA, anyone ever raised their voice supporting the legal immigration.
Lets face it ... its an unjust world ... we have lots of problems as far as legal immigration is concerned. But how many of us who are boiling with frustation here, will ever work and spend our time and energy on immigration related issues once we get the green card/citizenship?
BTW, I am just throwing some light on the basic root cause of this problem... no war of words please ... just peace.
Just think, it will be hard for a GC holder to continue the fight. After waiting for many frustrating years, he will just want to put the unpleasant thoughts behind and move on, and make up for all the lost years, they will have other things to do. That�s the reality, you got to fight for yourself along with people who are in the same situation as you.
Even the fresh GC aspirants who come to USA on H1/L1 visa, do not understand the importance of staying on top of their GC application and start organizing themselves. Mostly they realize the gravity of situation couple of year after their arrival, and start venting their anger and frustation on immigration forum like this.
A majority of immigrants think that the immigration doors should shut down immediately after they get their GC's. This transformation takes place overnight. I have never heard that from such a large population of immigrants who are settled in USA, anyone ever raised their voice supporting the legal immigration.
Lets face it ... its an unjust world ... we have lots of problems as far as legal immigration is concerned. But how many of us who are boiling with frustation here, will ever work and spend our time and energy on immigration related issues once we get the green card/citizenship?
BTW, I am just throwing some light on the basic root cause of this problem... no war of words please ... just peace.
Just think, it will be hard for a GC holder to continue the fight. After waiting for many frustrating years, he will just want to put the unpleasant thoughts behind and move on, and make up for all the lost years, they will have other things to do. That�s the reality, you got to fight for yourself along with people who are in the same situation as you.
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4move
06-25 11:45 PM
E-filed AP renewal to TSC on 05/26/2009 by paying $305. Received approval email today.
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Hermione
09-21 02:52 PM
Dude is absolutely right. There is a lot of support for the cause of the undocumented. Their situation is ever more desperate, and what many people do not understand, because of their numbers and huge contribution to the economy, they pretty much hold this country hostage, because it simply will not be able to survive without them any more. This is why lawmakers are less interested in the cause of legal immigrants.
But there is a flipside to this story for us. EB immigrants can position their suggestions as a solution for the whole immigration system, and not just for helpign with the situation right now, but going into the future. How? Very simple. Increase EB quotas, exempt spouses, and repeal admissibility bars - and you will have a lot more visas left over from EB1-2-3 that go lower skilled 'other workers'. If there is no admissibility bars, they would be able to apply for CP in their countries. Not only that would help current undocumented, it will give future lower skilled worker a chance to come legally. And the best thing - no amnesty to make the antis go bananas again! Just my $0.02.
But there is a flipside to this story for us. EB immigrants can position their suggestions as a solution for the whole immigration system, and not just for helpign with the situation right now, but going into the future. How? Very simple. Increase EB quotas, exempt spouses, and repeal admissibility bars - and you will have a lot more visas left over from EB1-2-3 that go lower skilled 'other workers'. If there is no admissibility bars, they would be able to apply for CP in their countries. Not only that would help current undocumented, it will give future lower skilled worker a chance to come legally. And the best thing - no amnesty to make the antis go bananas again! Just my $0.02.
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H4_losing_hope
02-11 11:00 AM
abhijitp & h4_hoping :)
I am also hoping for some tomorrow at a class.
Will update the letter counts on Monday. Buzz has it that IV has received ~1700 letters in the P O Box.
I prefer "h4_hoping"! thanks! Great work everyone!!! Let's keep onwards and upwards. Has anyone been contacting immigration lawyers who they've used in the past? I think I will try contacting a couple of offices. I know these folks are crazy busy but we could try leaving some printed letters in their offices for a week then go back and pick up? Any one had any luck here? Thanks!
I am also hoping for some tomorrow at a class.
Will update the letter counts on Monday. Buzz has it that IV has received ~1700 letters in the P O Box.
I prefer "h4_hoping"! thanks! Great work everyone!!! Let's keep onwards and upwards. Has anyone been contacting immigration lawyers who they've used in the past? I think I will try contacting a couple of offices. I know these folks are crazy busy but we could try leaving some printed letters in their offices for a week then go back and pick up? Any one had any luck here? Thanks!
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485Mbe4001
03-21 03:53 PM
The job description defines the EB category. There are many MS US(or worldwide) tech majors in EB3 simply because their lawyers were wimps or the job description did not support EB2.
Branding individual superiority based on the Type of visa application seems to be a desi quality...i have MS, i want EB2 etc..(i dont imply that you meant it, its just a general observation). i dont want to go into a discussion of the 'benefits' of a US Tech education with a job in an unrelated field.
You have put this in the best possible way. My allegiance to EB2 as I got my MS degree from US in Tech Major.
Branding individual superiority based on the Type of visa application seems to be a desi quality...i have MS, i want EB2 etc..(i dont imply that you meant it, its just a general observation). i dont want to go into a discussion of the 'benefits' of a US Tech education with a job in an unrelated field.
You have put this in the best possible way. My allegiance to EB2 as I got my MS degree from US in Tech Major.
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ashish3
09-16 11:00 AM
Hi,
I am planning to come to the Rally with my wife and my kid. Please let e know if it is OK to bring my 2 year old to the rally.thanks!
I am planning to come to the Rally with my wife and my kid. Please let e know if it is OK to bring my 2 year old to the rally.thanks!
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kumarc123
07-01 12:46 PM
Hello there,
I called it took me less than 5 minutes. I expressed my concern and the lady on the phone said she will pass on the message. However the Rep at present has not made any stand. Guys come on make some calls.
To the administrator and the to the Senior members, an idea came to my mid in order to galvanize some lazy members to work with us, can we restrict their entries to this website? Maybe keep something like, access will be granted only if a certain criteria is fulfilled.
It is a shame for all the Indians who are stuck and waiting for others to help them through this, my suggestion either work with everyone on this, or simply just go back to India, where they system is even more corrupted.
Last but not the least, people here are not wasting their time, neither unemployed, but they want to stand a fight for what's right and what's wrong.
I thought coming from India, will make us all stand united, but some people just don't care neither act but complain to god for their grievances.
Guys get up, move, help us out, we all need each other on this. Revolution can only bring a change---- not the wait and not the complaint.
I called it took me less than 5 minutes. I expressed my concern and the lady on the phone said she will pass on the message. However the Rep at present has not made any stand. Guys come on make some calls.
To the administrator and the to the Senior members, an idea came to my mid in order to galvanize some lazy members to work with us, can we restrict their entries to this website? Maybe keep something like, access will be granted only if a certain criteria is fulfilled.
It is a shame for all the Indians who are stuck and waiting for others to help them through this, my suggestion either work with everyone on this, or simply just go back to India, where they system is even more corrupted.
Last but not the least, people here are not wasting their time, neither unemployed, but they want to stand a fight for what's right and what's wrong.
I thought coming from India, will make us all stand united, but some people just don't care neither act but complain to god for their grievances.
Guys get up, move, help us out, we all need each other on this. Revolution can only bring a change---- not the wait and not the complaint.
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mbartosik
09-25 11:23 AM
I have used Fragomen in two different situations...
1) Contracted by my employer. This was frustrating from my perspective. I felt a little like an object, mostly dealt with paralegals.
2) Contracted by me. This was much better, I could call the attorneys up anytime, and get an answer when I needed it. Had excellent relationship with paralegals.
These were two different departments.
I do think that I suffered from some less than optimal advice, filed EB3 when EB2 would have been better. That was in 2002 when EB3 EB2 EB1 for all was current. EB2 was a tougher sell to Dept Labor, but I think would have worked, attorney didn't want to risk, and wasn't sure if a downgrade would be offered if EB2 failed.
One thing was consistent.... expensive.
I all but begged them to send out an email to clients referencing DC rally.
I have raised the idea with core of adding a field(s) to profile giving attorneys name/address. If we have a lot of members with Fragomen, maybe we could write a group letter asking them to send out a mass email to other clients.
So please be civil in these public forums.
1) Contracted by my employer. This was frustrating from my perspective. I felt a little like an object, mostly dealt with paralegals.
2) Contracted by me. This was much better, I could call the attorneys up anytime, and get an answer when I needed it. Had excellent relationship with paralegals.
These were two different departments.
I do think that I suffered from some less than optimal advice, filed EB3 when EB2 would have been better. That was in 2002 when EB3 EB2 EB1 for all was current. EB2 was a tougher sell to Dept Labor, but I think would have worked, attorney didn't want to risk, and wasn't sure if a downgrade would be offered if EB2 failed.
One thing was consistent.... expensive.
I all but begged them to send out an email to clients referencing DC rally.
I have raised the idea with core of adding a field(s) to profile giving attorneys name/address. If we have a lot of members with Fragomen, maybe we could write a group letter asking them to send out a mass email to other clients.
So please be civil in these public forums.
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desi3933
03-05 12:56 PM
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What bothers me is the requirement of the definition of Priority Date? You would expect some one in the CIS/NRC to know what a priority date is. ....
22 CFR � 42.53 Priority date of individual applicants
The priority date of a preference visa applicant under INA 203 (a) or (b) shall be the filing date of the approved petition that accorded preference status.
http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr_2002/aprqtr/pdf/22cfr42.53.pdf
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US citizen of Indian origin
What bothers me is the requirement of the definition of Priority Date? You would expect some one in the CIS/NRC to know what a priority date is. ....
22 CFR � 42.53 Priority date of individual applicants
The priority date of a preference visa applicant under INA 203 (a) or (b) shall be the filing date of the approved petition that accorded preference status.
http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr_2002/aprqtr/pdf/22cfr42.53.pdf
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unitednations
02-13 01:05 AM
I posted a reply long ago - it was quite hard-hitting on Berry. It somehow hasn't shown up until now - wonder if the editors "balance" the pro- and anti- immigrant letters :mad:
BTW this Berry guy seems to be in the know of everything happening on this site. I hope at least now those blowhards among us who insist of by-the-minute updates and "where is my 20$" questions appreciate why the core members don't give updates on these forums. If you are so keen on updates, get off your backsides and pick up that darn phone !!!
The problem of contacting media with "stories" is that you don't want people who are just hanging by a thread; just trying to stay in status and having all sorts of hardship because they want to stay. It feeds into the fact that there are a lot of people here which the country doesn't need. Discussing layoffs or threats of layoffs or employer abusing, etc., feeds into the perception from an outside person that there are too many people here not doing specialized work that an American is not able to do.
Regarding Berry. I haven't gone to programmersguild web-site in a long time but the point that they seem to always bring up which seems to really bother them is that an American lost their job after training an h-1b person who was a cheaper option or an American lost their job because they had to train an L-1 worker who would then take the job offshore. He also points to h-1b companies who don't pay very much (information taken from LCA's which is public information).
Fortunately for the skilled immigrants; many members of congress/senate are business leaders themselves. Everyday there is a merger and job elimintions where one person has to train another who is getting their job cut. After all when Bank One merged with JP Morgan, there were a lot of people who had to train others and the trainer eventually lost their job. This is normal to business and not specific to people on work visas. Therefore, they don't have much merit to this argument. It is a fact of everyday business that if a job can be done by a person with one to two years of experience then they will replace a person who has been doing it for 10 years. the person with 10 years of experience could have pretty substantial pay package because those 4 to 5% increases over 10 years can add up. If a person is overpaid for a job that doesn't require much experience then they are pretty much dead weight and are discarded. This is not specific to immigrants but has been going on for many, many years in this country. Therefore, although their arguments at face value may have some merit to them; the business leaders, members of congress/senate are too smart because they themselves have done this at companies they may have been associated with and those companies probably didn't have much immigrants working there.
Unfortunately, on paper it does look like the bodyshops are paying very low when looking at LCA's. However, we all know that what is listed on the LCA; in no way has any reality to the total compensation that a person is getting paid. If people are working on ratio which most people do convert to; their billing rate on the low end would be $50 ($100,000 per year) which would probably work out to $80,000. However, the LCA might only show a salary of $50K (people take per diems as the rest or save it for a rainy day).
BTW this Berry guy seems to be in the know of everything happening on this site. I hope at least now those blowhards among us who insist of by-the-minute updates and "where is my 20$" questions appreciate why the core members don't give updates on these forums. If you are so keen on updates, get off your backsides and pick up that darn phone !!!
The problem of contacting media with "stories" is that you don't want people who are just hanging by a thread; just trying to stay in status and having all sorts of hardship because they want to stay. It feeds into the fact that there are a lot of people here which the country doesn't need. Discussing layoffs or threats of layoffs or employer abusing, etc., feeds into the perception from an outside person that there are too many people here not doing specialized work that an American is not able to do.
Regarding Berry. I haven't gone to programmersguild web-site in a long time but the point that they seem to always bring up which seems to really bother them is that an American lost their job after training an h-1b person who was a cheaper option or an American lost their job because they had to train an L-1 worker who would then take the job offshore. He also points to h-1b companies who don't pay very much (information taken from LCA's which is public information).
Fortunately for the skilled immigrants; many members of congress/senate are business leaders themselves. Everyday there is a merger and job elimintions where one person has to train another who is getting their job cut. After all when Bank One merged with JP Morgan, there were a lot of people who had to train others and the trainer eventually lost their job. This is normal to business and not specific to people on work visas. Therefore, they don't have much merit to this argument. It is a fact of everyday business that if a job can be done by a person with one to two years of experience then they will replace a person who has been doing it for 10 years. the person with 10 years of experience could have pretty substantial pay package because those 4 to 5% increases over 10 years can add up. If a person is overpaid for a job that doesn't require much experience then they are pretty much dead weight and are discarded. This is not specific to immigrants but has been going on for many, many years in this country. Therefore, although their arguments at face value may have some merit to them; the business leaders, members of congress/senate are too smart because they themselves have done this at companies they may have been associated with and those companies probably didn't have much immigrants working there.
Unfortunately, on paper it does look like the bodyshops are paying very low when looking at LCA's. However, we all know that what is listed on the LCA; in no way has any reality to the total compensation that a person is getting paid. If people are working on ratio which most people do convert to; their billing rate on the low end would be $50 ($100,000 per year) which would probably work out to $80,000. However, the LCA might only show a salary of $50K (people take per diems as the rest or save it for a rainy day).
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delax
07-15 07:48 PM
I already mentioned in my previous posts (multiple posts with same matter for people like you and me, see it and understand it well) how we are getting more than 50k visas just for EB2 India. I am giving it here again the visa allotments for 2006 and 2007 years when theres vertical fallouts. Now its changed to horizontal fall outs.
Due to this as many of us think its not the EB3 India which is losing, but its EB3 ROW.
Class --------------------------------------> 2006 | 2007
Total Employment-based Approvals ----------> 159,081 | 162,176
EB1 ---------------------------------------> 36,960 | 26,697
EB2 ---------------------------------------> 21,911 | 44,162
EB3 ---------------------------------------> 89,922 | 85,030
Fourth:-------------------------------------> 9,539 | 5,481
Fifth (investors) ----------------------------> 749 | 806
See the Total Employment Based Visa approvals for 2006 and 2007 159,081 and 162,176. But there are only 140,000 visas in EB category. The rest of the visas came from Family Based visas which are not used for the previous fiscal year. The share for each category: Each EB1, EB2 and EB3 should get 1/3 of 140,000 = 46,666. But due to the less demand in EB1 and EB2 ROW all the visas falling to EB3 ROW due to the Vertical falling.
EB1 ROW --> EB2 ROW --> EB3 ROW.
EB1 INDIA --> EB2 INDIA --> EB3 INDIA.
As theres not much demand for EB1 ROW and EB2 ROW, all the unused visas are going to fall to EB3 ROW. So from this time its going to be like Horizotal fall out like below.
EB1 ROW/EB1 INDIA --> EB2 ROW/ EB2India/ EB2China-->EB3ROW/EB3 INDIA.
So this time to fall any VISAS into EB3 ROW they have to pass through EB2 India/EB2 China. So this makes EB3 ROW dates would retrogress due to the decrease in visa numbers availabilty.
As I said each category would have 46,666. So EB1 and EB2 together will have around 93,332 visas. But in EB1+EB2 in 2006 about 50,000 visas approved and in 2007 about 70,000 visas approved. So for 2008 also asume the demand for EB1 and EB2 is 70,000. But the availability of VISAS are 93,332 as said above + unused family visas which come around 19,000+.
So for this 2008 fiscal year for EB2 India and China the total visa numbers availlable are
(93,332 +19,000) - 70,000 = 42,332.
So around 42 thousand + 9,800 (regular 7% of 140k) = around 52k Visas Just for India , because EB2 China was already Jan 2006 a year back. And I dont think it would take any considerable share in this 50k other than its regular 9,800 visas.
Get me back if you have any doubts.
I think this makes complete sense. If USCIS continues with the same intent/logic from this point on then 50k visas is possible. We can argue over a few thousand here and there but the increase will be substantial as compared to prior years. The big caveat to all this is that USCIS/DOS continue the horizontal spill over from this point on.
Due to this as many of us think its not the EB3 India which is losing, but its EB3 ROW.
Class --------------------------------------> 2006 | 2007
Total Employment-based Approvals ----------> 159,081 | 162,176
EB1 ---------------------------------------> 36,960 | 26,697
EB2 ---------------------------------------> 21,911 | 44,162
EB3 ---------------------------------------> 89,922 | 85,030
Fourth:-------------------------------------> 9,539 | 5,481
Fifth (investors) ----------------------------> 749 | 806
See the Total Employment Based Visa approvals for 2006 and 2007 159,081 and 162,176. But there are only 140,000 visas in EB category. The rest of the visas came from Family Based visas which are not used for the previous fiscal year. The share for each category: Each EB1, EB2 and EB3 should get 1/3 of 140,000 = 46,666. But due to the less demand in EB1 and EB2 ROW all the visas falling to EB3 ROW due to the Vertical falling.
EB1 ROW --> EB2 ROW --> EB3 ROW.
EB1 INDIA --> EB2 INDIA --> EB3 INDIA.
As theres not much demand for EB1 ROW and EB2 ROW, all the unused visas are going to fall to EB3 ROW. So from this time its going to be like Horizotal fall out like below.
EB1 ROW/EB1 INDIA --> EB2 ROW/ EB2India/ EB2China-->EB3ROW/EB3 INDIA.
So this time to fall any VISAS into EB3 ROW they have to pass through EB2 India/EB2 China. So this makes EB3 ROW dates would retrogress due to the decrease in visa numbers availabilty.
As I said each category would have 46,666. So EB1 and EB2 together will have around 93,332 visas. But in EB1+EB2 in 2006 about 50,000 visas approved and in 2007 about 70,000 visas approved. So for 2008 also asume the demand for EB1 and EB2 is 70,000. But the availability of VISAS are 93,332 as said above + unused family visas which come around 19,000+.
So for this 2008 fiscal year for EB2 India and China the total visa numbers availlable are
(93,332 +19,000) - 70,000 = 42,332.
So around 42 thousand + 9,800 (regular 7% of 140k) = around 52k Visas Just for India , because EB2 China was already Jan 2006 a year back. And I dont think it would take any considerable share in this 50k other than its regular 9,800 visas.
Get me back if you have any doubts.
I think this makes complete sense. If USCIS continues with the same intent/logic from this point on then 50k visas is possible. We can argue over a few thousand here and there but the increase will be substantial as compared to prior years. The big caveat to all this is that USCIS/DOS continue the horizontal spill over from this point on.
kondur_007
09-23 10:37 AM
I found this on shusterman's regarding obama's views on immigration. Looks like he is all for family based immigration but no mention about employment based.
http://shusterman.com/pdf/obama908.pdf
That's where the "vote bank" is my friend...
I will be little blunt here but will say this:
Ask yourself this question: (assume that you are american born person and are advisor to one of the campaigns): What will help you politically? Supporting skilled EB immigrants (140k per year, who will not be able to vote for at least next five years) or FB immigrants (860k per year, who may also not be able to vote for next five years) or no immigrants (join the part of Loo Doggs and count on may be 1-2 percent of population who may support them which would be 3-6 million votes).
In nutshell, from the perspecitive of politicians, it is never a good deal to support EB immigration; the only incentive for them is the money they get from big companies like microsoft, IBM, google etc. And this is not enough to land us anywhere. Only a very few politician (like sen Lofgren) work for their principles, rest is all vote bank; that's why horses are more important than us.
I am a little bit bitter here, but it is time to understand this reality and consider our strategy accordingly; espeicially for the possible CIR next year.
http://shusterman.com/pdf/obama908.pdf
That's where the "vote bank" is my friend...
I will be little blunt here but will say this:
Ask yourself this question: (assume that you are american born person and are advisor to one of the campaigns): What will help you politically? Supporting skilled EB immigrants (140k per year, who will not be able to vote for at least next five years) or FB immigrants (860k per year, who may also not be able to vote for next five years) or no immigrants (join the part of Loo Doggs and count on may be 1-2 percent of population who may support them which would be 3-6 million votes).
In nutshell, from the perspecitive of politicians, it is never a good deal to support EB immigration; the only incentive for them is the money they get from big companies like microsoft, IBM, google etc. And this is not enough to land us anywhere. Only a very few politician (like sen Lofgren) work for their principles, rest is all vote bank; that's why horses are more important than us.
I am a little bit bitter here, but it is time to understand this reality and consider our strategy accordingly; espeicially for the possible CIR next year.
ak27
12-01 08:57 AM
You are right about utilizing this time to increase skill portfolio. I have done it and many folks like us may doing it. But, it does not help in improving our situations because we are tied to our current jobs and employers which inhibits us from taking advantage of additional educations and skills.. However, people waiting for GC and are in last leg of GC journey should certainly consider it.
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